My Brother the Terrorist

00:00:02 This programme contains some strong language and

00:02:55 You tell me to my face that I'm a filthy kafir.

00:05:04 to six years in prison for preparing to commit acts of terror.

00:08:00 Anjem was master of ceremonies at Rich's conversion

00:10:06 An active supporter at Islamist protests

00:12:18 'I'm angry, but it's hard to make sense of things

00:14:36 'So in Lewis' mind, Rich isn't really a terrorist at all -

00:17:10 Choudary provided him with a certificate of conversion.

00:19:54 'Rich indeed moved away from East London

00:22:08 'I tell him I'll hold him to it.

00:24:29 is going to open it.

00:27:06 "You guys are not doing enough. It's your problem"

00:29:41 If you spent your whole documentary focusing on the three guys he knew

00:31:56 it's a similar process for any other type of extremism.

00:34:05 You know, it's quite shocking.

00:36:19 It just means there's an Islamist problem, there's a problem

00:38:33 Yeah, and on the internet, whose narrative is it?

00:41:02 I'll never forget the shock I felt on hearing the news.

00:43:43 I used to have TV.

00:45:37 this is not an issue. As long as it's Halal.

00:48:07 But I still worry about the rhetoric from Anjem, and preachers like him.

00:50:19 I'm influencing people to go abroad, quite frankly and honestly.

00:52:28 How about that arm wrestle? Are you ready for the arm wrestle?

00:55:05 and die on what we call Tahweed, the worshipping only of Allah